by the way, that is why we are facing this new fiscal cliff. it is infuriating to business owners. i have been talking to a lot of them last couple of weeks. this is banana republic type of politics. no one knows what it will look like. it makes it impossible for businesses to do planning, purchasing equipment, hiring workers. you are seeing the impact on the stock market already where we have a lousy 10 days with stocks because everybody is in this kind of state of fear and trepidation that we are going to go over this cliff. i will give you a sliver of good news, i talked to some of my sources in the republican leadership and they say that the president sounded a little bit more conciliatory in this last phone call that they had. and they still hold out hope that we might get a deal before the stroke of midnight. and the ball comes down in new york. gregg: you are talking about huge amounts of tax increases. you know, some people, i have e-mails -- i was loaded with e-mails yesterday from folks. firefighters and teachers, i'm going to see 15,000, $20,000 of my hard earned money.